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    Throw Some ‘A’s On That

    I read an interesting article from True/Slant on Monday. The article claims that Gen Y is the most stressed generation ever, with high expectations and dreams of owning it all (h/t Lauren Fernandez for sharing). I recommend reading it, but if you want the CliffNotes version, here it is: Gen Y is tweaking more than anyone else in history. Ever. Well, they probably didn’t include cavemen. I guess they would be a close second. You would fret too if T-Rex lived in your backyard.

    Anyways, on to the point: the article says we’re stressed to the max. If generations were bagels, Gen Y would be the everything bagel. The article labels us as, to name a few: stressed, entitled, narcissistic, materialistic, miserable, assertive, confident, greedy, self-indulgent. Is your head spinning yet? Talk about a tough blow. I feel like Zach Galifianakis after being laid out by Tyson.

    The part that got to me though, especially as I start a new semester, is the following quote from psychology professor Jean Twenge:

    “A recent study published in the Journal of Youth and Adolescence … found that two-thirds of college students believed their professors should raise their grades if the student simply explained that he or she was trying hard. One-third believed that if they attended most of the classes for a course, they deserved at least a B in the class. Almost a third thought they should be able to schedule the final exam around their vacation.”

    Now originally, this post was going to be about the failure that is the American education system. But that’s like playing a 98° CD at your party- it used to be cool, but quit already. Not long after, I read this article and had the proverbial light bulb: what if it isn’t the system (well, as much as we think it is), but it is the students?

    I acknowledge that I don’t like the way the American education system is organized. In fact, I hate it. This may be because I’m cynical, or because I’m one of those touchy-feely learners with ADHD whom most of my teachers despised, or maybe, MAYBE, it’s because I feel entitled. I mean, I’m part of Gen-Y so that comes naturally, right?

    Does Gen-Y feel entitled to an education? We got a trophy for just showing up for basketball games, even if we sucked, so why shouldn’t we get an A for just showing up for class? It never mattered if you tripped over every damned hurdle on that track, but you tried hard, so you got your medal. That Social Research class should work the same way, right? I showed up, I should get an A! Is the education system failing us, or are we failing the education system?

    Yes, I know the introduction to this post is historically inaccurate. Put the encyclopedias down. Props to Flickr user Terren from Virginia on the shiny picture of swimming trophies.

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    • How can we not be stressed if these days we can't get a "good-paying job" (depending on your POV of good-paying) unless we have our Bachelor's, or even a Masters. Some of our parents didn't even finish high school, or even two years of college, much less four like us. With the amount of stress that our generation faces, and the expectations placed on our shoulders ("when I was your age..") we face juggling classes, hw, jobs (multiple, at times), & a social life, among other things.
      Employers expect us to have leadership roles within our communities, extracurricular activities, job experience, and depending on the field:great GPA's! It's so stressful being in gen-y!

      ... phew, felt good getting that off my chest :) ...& I'm not sticking up for those who are handed everything, but I DO believe that some of us should be given a little bit more credit.
      - great thought-provoking post :)
    • Deep breath. Exhale. Good.

      Thanks for the comment. I think I understand where you're coming from. I sometimes feel like we are the 'subconsciously stabbed' generation a bit. It seems like pot-shots are always being taken at our character, culture, integrity, intelligence, lifestyle, you name it. It can wear on a person, and put unnecessary pressures upon them.

      Then again, has this happened for past generations? How the hell would I know.
    • cathmary
      Yes, in answer to your question, it HAS happened to previous generations. I'm right smack at the start of the Gen X generation -- and we were the slackers who were never going to get off our ass and get a real job, instead of having everything handed to us.

      Gen X'ers started the move back home trend -- hell, I moved back in w/ my mom for a short while when I was 25 or so. I worked with others who did the same.

      The generation slamming thing gets old. I've worked with Gen Y folks and I see them busting ass. No less than I did at that age. Maybe some of y'all act entitled, but I haven't encountered it personally.

      And, re: profs and their piss-poor explanations for the grades they give, my own personal favorite comment I received: "I don't give A's because no human being is perfect".
    • Yeah, I've had a few professors that say things along the same line. It's just ridiculous. If you're going to say that, at least give me a legitimate area to improve, please!

      Thanks for the comment. I think Gen-Y, me included, can get sucked into the "woe is us" mentality from all these stereotypes. We don't really have an idea of what it was like for previous generations.

      Side note: Wouldn't it be cool if they taught a cultural American history alongside factual American history in high school? I've heard of one college course similar to a cultural American history course, but don't think I'll have the opportunity to take it.
    • emilyjasper
      This is an interesting idea. I didn't so much expect A's, I knew when I didn't deserve one, but what I had a harder time with was when I didn't get an A, I couldn't get feedback on how to improve. I'd ask, what was it about this paper that got me a B, or what would it take to get this from a B+ to A-? And all I'd get is a blank look...so at some point, I'll admit I got frustrated with grading when I couldn't hear what the parameters were..."I could just tell" doesn't teach me. Thanks for the post!
    • That's one of the most frustrating things. Ever. See my response to Evan. What the teacher told me was, "This is a great paper, so I would feel bad giving you lower than an 80. On the other hand, you didn't truly understand the spirit of the assignment, so the highest I can give you is an 80."

      Someone please explain what I'm supposed to learn from that? No? Yeah, neither could she when I asked her.
    • Thanks for the mention Colby
    • Thanks for the great article. I really enjoyed it.
    • Great post Colby- I have a feeling we're very similar students.

      It seems as though Tee-Ball has left us all permanently scarred.

      Personally, I think all grades are subjective and every teacher/professor is different. With that in mind, if I don't receive a grade I think I deserve, I am more than happy to make my case known and talk it out with the instructor- it makes things interesting.

      Either way, like Nick began to mention, I think too much emphasis is put on grades & GPA in school when it doesn't even carry much weight in the "real world".
    • I whole-heartedly agree with you on making your case. But there's a difference between actually having a case and begging. Some students beg. Some students have legitimate reason to debate (see: my Freshman year English course in which my ENGLISH professor didn't understand satire. Yes, you just read that right. Yes, I am still fuming about it two years later. Not the grade, but the fact that she is a college English professor.)

      If "I showed up and did all the work!" is your reasoning, well, that's too bad. Some people just are not good at some things. It's a consequence of being human.

      p.s. I use "your" in generalization of Gen-Y, not at you specifically, Evan. =D
    • Is it really our fault? We've had our baby boomer parents telling us from day one that if we work hard enough, we can get whatever we want in life. That with a little honest elbow grease, we too can live the American Dream.

      Delusional? Yes. But after being told that your whole life, can you expect some of us not to believe it?
    • There are a lot of us out there who work their asses off. Those are the ones that will succeed, too. But simply being the president of 89473289 organizations doesn't mean you deserve an A just for "trying hard" in class.
    • Delusional? Yes. But after being told that your whole life, can you expect some of us not to believe it?

      But when you don't put in the work, yet you feel entitled to something is when you are doomed to fail and want what you 'should' have.

      If you do work hard, you'll probably succeed depending on your loose definition of success, but if you loaf around and say 'I should be successful' then you are doomed.
    • I agree with Jackie and think that GenY has a feeling of entitlement. Thinking that you deserve a B just for showing up to class, without even trying? I got some B's in college, even when I showed up AND worked my butt off. I got the grades I deserved for the time and energy I put into it, and that's how it should be. Being handed grades just for showing up or by saying you "deserve" them only makes us look lazier and lazier, which is not good.

      I also think as a generation, we bring stress on ourselves. We have to do EVERYTHING- school, work, social life- always keeping busy. Take my sister for example. She's a junior at NYU and this was her semester in the fall- 4 intense classes and TWO jobs (one nannying, one in retail) and she never got a break. Oh and she's a perfectionist, so she doesn't slack off when it comes to work. Does she have to work 2 jobs? No. She could easily work 1 job and coast along through school and eliminate the stress. But, on the other side of this, she's working tremendously hard and will rightfully earn every ounce of success she gets post-grad.

      I don't think grade inflation is the solution, or telling your teacher you deserve an A so they give it to you. My experience in college was you got the grade you deserved, and I think all educator's so follow that.

      Great topic and questions! A good way to kick off spring semester :)

      -Christa
      @ChristaMarzan
    • Thanks for the comment. I agree on educator's giving you the grade you deserve (see my reply to Tom). That hasn't been my universal experience, but they are definitely out there. I think that accountability needs to happen more, across the board. Education, athletics, arts- if you're not good at something, you need to know. If it's something you love, you'll work harder to get better. If not, you'll find something else. It feels like we're hiding the truth from kids that there will be things they suck at, and they will have to deal with it.
    • Those darn cavemen had to show us up, didn't they?

      Today, we stress about studying for a test, writing a presentation at work, and whether we should be an iPhone or a Droid. Tough life, huh.

      I definitely think we, as Gen Y, have a feeling of a sense of entitlement, both in school and out of it. We feel that we deserve a decent grade, a well paying job, and a good life because we worked somewhat hard to get to where we are. I've been asking myself lately, is all of this entitlement warranted? Did our parents really not have to work just as hard as we did? Maybe it was in a different form. I may have worked my tail off to make the grades to get a good job, but my dad worked his tail off to even pay for his own college.

      Just a few thoughts, great question though, Colby!
    • Thanks for the thoughts. It's definitely a different time, and I think that is a lot of the source of the conflict. I know my parents worked harder than I do. The situation they put my sister and I in is worlds, literally, better than what they had growing up. On the other hand, my parents simply have no concept of what it is that I do or study. My mom tries to understand (she got a Twitter), but my dad doesn't have a clue. It's so different from what they know, it's hard to compare the two.
    • Great post & topic, Colby.

      I think it's a combination of things. I think it's time to hold ourselves accountable and, on the other hand, make sure that our teachers, mentors, and parents hold us accountable for the quality of our work.

      As someone who works closely with high schoolers, I can tell you that, in the past, they HAVE been given A's for simply showing up to class or just doing their homework (whether it's done well or not). It's a hard lesson, but my school holds its students accountable for the quality of their work and do not inflate grades. In most cases, over time, the students learn what type of effort is necessary to get an 'A'.

      Again, it's a tough pill to swallow, but one that's very necessary for Gen-Y to learn.
      Thanks Colby,

      Tom
      @TomOKeefe1
    • I hate that "graded on completeness" crap. Sure, it saved my ass plenty of times, but I didn't learn anything from it. It didn't motivate me to improve. In fact, it did the opposite. I just stormed through that type of homework, knowing that if there were scribbles of some form of legible English on my paper, I'd get an A.

      When I got to college, I realized that I do need to hold myself accountable (after a semester or two... yeah about that). It's helped, but I still need friends and professors to call me out on my bullshit (I'm lucky to have a few professors that will call me out when my work isn't top-notch). It's nice to have those professors that just won't hand me the A. One of my friends actually had a professor tell her that she was being held to a higher standard because she told him she never felt like she was challenged in that class (Spanish, her second major). He challenged her- and that's awesome.
    • nicklucido
      Colby-

      First of all, step off 98°. Who wouldn't play "I Do" at 3 a.m.?

      Anyway, I think this educational entitlement is derived from the focus on not only what we learn in school, but our extra-curricular involvement as well as professional internships. As students, we pushed to have other commitments and school, at least for me, doesn't maintain it's first level priority. It's a shame, but in PR, recruiters are looking for experience and not necessarily GPA.

      Thanks for discussing this. It's a very thoughtful question.
    • That's a great point. Hiring practices in many industries seem to be shifting away from grade-based evaluation to experience-based. Still though, if we don't place a high priority on our classes, can we expect to get an A? Sure we're busy with other things, but does that make us deserve an A?

      I'll be honest- there are times when I think, "I totally deserve a B in this class." There are other places I'm allocating my resources (time, effort, etc) that I believe are more important. However, a friend of mine thought he deserved an A in a class last semester because of his extra-curricular work that was remotely related to the class. I disagreed. And so did his teacher.
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